I'm interested in your opinion to this letter.
- Staining from disinfection or not?
- Where the letter comes from?
Thank you very much in advance.
André
I'm interested in your opinion to this letter.
- Staining from disinfection or not?
- Where the letter comes from?
Thank you very much in advance.
André
Letter from Smyrna to Livorno, disinfected with vinegar and with two slits.
"This is of course a Bill of Exchange, which was folded to fit the small cover (which is why the Bill has several horizontal slits and the cover has 2 vertical slits). As I told you I did not know of any slitting at Livorno at this period. The leading expert on Livorno P.H. in this country is Alan Becker and he has 5 covers (or Photostats) to Livorno which were disinfected, 1799 to 1808. None of these are slit - they were opened for fumigation and sealed with a "blind" paper seal. Like me he has not seen any material disinfected at Livorno in the period 1789 to 1799. I suggest you send a scan of this page of yours to Alberto Caroli together with my note on my experience and Alan Becker's"
Denis
Dear Alberto, Do you have a guesswork where this letter was disinfected?
Yours sincerely,
André
The earliest disinfected letter I have seen. Congratulation!
Letter from April 19th, 1832 from Gibraltar to Schiedam (May 10th, 1832).
"DE GIBR. / S. ROQUE / ANDA. BAXA" (sent by the Spanish overland route)
"ESPAGNE PAR / ST. JEAN-DE-LUZ" (French transit)
"Frankryk / over Arnhem"
Rated 85 Stuivers
The letter was disinfected twice:
– San Roque (Spain), 15 mm slit
– treated externally at Arnheim, "GEZUIVERD"
Letter from Feb. 29th, 1832 from Devizes (Wiltshire, England) to Bonn (Prussia).
"Engeland / over Brielle"
The GB inland + sea postage was prepaid from the sender.
"20" cts was the fee for the transit in the Netherlands
The receiver had to pay "8" Sgr.
The letter was disinfected at Brielle.
Dry fumigation was used, the letter has 3 chisel slits (15 mm).
The straight-line cached "GEZUIVERD" (cleaned) was applied to letters at the following purification offices in the Netherlands:
Arnheim (September 1831 to August 1832): the border post office for Prussian mail and frontier office for mail from France
Deventer (October 1831 to April 1832): the border post office for Bremen, Hamburg and Hannover
Winschoten (1831): the frontier with East Friesland
Brielle (February 1832 to July 1832): the "frontier office" for the English Packet service for Harwich
Hellevoetsluis (March 1832 to ? 1832): Naval quarantine station
§ XVIII : Letters and parcels from suspect regions have to be fumigated by the imperial post.
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The bookis on free distribution for ASPOT members (Associazione per lo studio dellastoria postale toscana). I suggest you to write to the ASPOT president, AlessandroPapanti (avv.papanti@yahoo.it) and ask him for a copy. I think there are volumes available for thosewho will send him a request.
Thank you very much! I have send him a message.
André
I wish you all the best with you presentation. Is ist possible to order that booklet?
Kind regards,
André
A message from Guy:
"The rastel of Marseilles was used during a very, very short period (1831-1833) : the exact dates are in my book. Less than 15 such letters are actually known !"
Where was the letter disinfected with vinegar? There are no signs on back of the cover.
I got a message from Guy. He told me that no rastel was used at that time in Marseille (only from 1831/33) and:
"For this letter from Constantinople the punch holes were done in Rothenthurn. The letter has no mark : for me it was put on the mail in Marseilles “12/MARSEILLE” paid until the border and after r7 (7 reales) for the Spanish port due to the address. This letter never passed by the Marseilles Quarantine !"
The French Revolutionary Calendar was created and implemented during the French Revolution. It was used by the French government from late 1793 to 1805. There is an excellent table by Dieter Echterhoff (please see the attached pdf-document*) to convert these dates to the Gregorian calendar.
Example: "25 ventrose an 11" = March 16th, 1803
* The use of the pdf-document "Der Französische Revolutionskalender" is with kind permission of Dieter Echterhoff ( http:/www.lzkv.de )
As far as I know this is the postage (Copenhagen to Hamburg) payed by the sender: 30 Reichsbankskilling
"DISINFIZIERT" cachet (43 x 5.5 mm) in lilac probably used by the German Field Post in the Ukraine in April 1942.
Typically letters and cards of the First and Second World War were disinfected at a lazaret. The card does not mention a lazaret also the spelling "DISINFIZIERT" with "I" instead of an "E" (DESINFIZIERT) is odd for Germany. Otherwise Dr. Meyer is listing a similar cachet "Disinfiziert" in his book "DISINFECTED MAIL" on page 293 used by the German Field Post in Ukraine in March 1942.
Are there further examples known?
"Desinfiziert" cachet (33.5 x 5.5 mm) in green used by the Reserve Lazaret of Chemnitz in April/Mai 1944
Are there further examples known?
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