Posts by Andre
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A new additions to the list:
– Barcelona to Montpellier (July 13th, 1805), with punch holes (sold at an auction) -
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Letter from Jassy (June 20th, 1853) via the Austrian border post office Czernowitz (June 22nd) via Krakau (June 26th) and from there in closed mail via Valenciennes to Paris (June 29th).
Postmark of Paris with number "3" = via Valenciennes
Postmark "AUTR. 2 VALnes" = from Austria via Valenciennes
The letter was disinfected in Boian and has on back a hand written rastel-number.
The recipient had to pay 16 décimes (postage for letter up to 7,5 g).
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A further letter from Constantinople (Sept. 10, 1816) to Spain (Madrid).
The letter was put into the regular post in Paris but he has rastel punch holes which are not common for France or Spain. This lead to the assumption that the letter was disinfected in Rothenthurn.
In 1816 new postal rates were proclaimed for letters from France to Spain:
– letters with destination north of the Ebro river: 4 reales for letters up to 4 adarmes
– letters with destination Andalucia or Baleares: 6 reales for letters up to 4 adarmes
– letters to the rest of Spain: 5 reales for letters up to 4 adarmes
On back of the letter there is a manuscript mark of "10" décimes, paid by the sender for the route from Paris up to the French/Spanish border (Perpignan).
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In the Filbase Hedy provided an article about the Rothenthurn cachets 1804-1816. In this article is mentioned that mail from Constantinople was disinfected in Rothenthurn in the following periods only:
– Oct. 25th, 1791 to June 1792
– 1794 to July 15th, 1800
– Oct, 1806 to 1809
– 1813 to 1821
– 1822 to 1828
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According to Meyer ("Disinfected Mail", page 67/68) main Type H was used from 1858 to 1860.
The picture shows a letter from Constantinople (June 2nd, 1858) to Vienna. There are no rastel or slits.
The postage is for a double weight letter:
42 kr. (in red and in blue) = 2x 12 kr. Constantinople until the Austrian border + 2x 9 kr. CM for the delivery within Austria.
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Strasbourg: 15.08.1831 – 28.02.1832
Letter from Munich (20.2.1832) to Paris (28.2.1832)
Bavaria par Strasbourg with a 17 mm slit for disinfection
Postage: 16 déc. = 9 déc. for Bavaria (Rayon 4) and 7 déc. for France (Strasbourg - Paris, 300/400 km)
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Well done, congratulations!
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The complete collection is for download:
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Thank you for showing these interesting items! Disinfected letters from the Swedish and Norwegian post office in Hamburg are really hard to find.
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Dear Björn,
Unfortunately I have no additions to your list which covers more letters than I have ever seen.
Kind regards,
Andre
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Dear Hedy,
Thank you for your hint! I also think that the two slits of the Saalfeld letter from 1746 (page 13/128) were done to seal the letter and not for disinfection. Please find attached a letter from my collection which show the strip of paper which will break if the letter is opened. What do you think?
Kind regards,
André
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Erik had redesigned his collection for Nordia 2017. The whole collection is now online:
http://dphs.dk/samlinger/epedemi-bekaempelse-foer-sygdomsaarsager-var-erkendt/
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Letter from July 23th, 1828, with "prix courant" from Bahia (Brazil) to Barcelona. The letter was forwarded by "Supino y Segre de Gibraltar" and posted in San Roque. The receiver in Barcelona had to pay a postage of 12 cuartos de vellon for a single letter from Andalusia to Catalonia (tariff of 1815 ).
The letter was probably disinfected in Gibraltar and has two fumigation slits (circa 27 mm).
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Dear Hedy,
Disinfected letters with such interesting text content are hard to find. They show us how difficult and dangerous it was to travel in former centuries . Thank you for showing this item!
Yours sincerely,
André
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Dear Hedy,
A very interesting inland letter from the cholera epidemic of 1853/56! In 1855 the cholera reached Portugal through the Douro river in May and it spread from there. The harbour of Oporto was declared dirty on July 1st, 1855. By November/December the epidemic came to an end. I have two Spanish disinfected letters from this epidemic in my collection (Spanish Cholera Epidemic of 1854/55) but none of them is related to Portugal.
André
P.S. I have almost all Pratique volumes but vol. XXIX no2 is still missing. Is it possible that you make scans or photographs of the article you were referring to?
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I have added two letters from the collection of Denis. He also mentioned that the cachets are different and recommend to examine the relation of the E in PREUSS with the S in STEMP.
- 23.07.1831: Nowemiasto (Nowe Miasto nad Pilica) to Berlin – E is well to the left of S in STEMP
- 01.09.1831: Namslau to Ratibor – E is slightly to the right of S in STEMP
- 04.09.1831: Posen via Zuckmantel to Vienna – E is directly above the S of STEMP
Namslau_detail.pngThe updated list:
- 03.07.1831: Jungbunzlau to Langensalza
- 23.07.1831: Nowemiasto (Nowe Miasto nad Pilica) to Berlin
- 01.08.1831: Warsaw via Berlin and Forbach to Paris
- 26.08.1831: Lauenburg to Stargard
- 01.09.1831: Namslau to Ratibor- 04.09.1831: Posen via Zuckmantel to Vienna
- 21.09.1831: Krotoschin to Kelbra
- 28.09.1831: Ratibor to Kosel
- 14.10.1831: Lauenburg to Stargard
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Denis told me: " ... mail was NEVER slit or treated on leaving this country" (this country = Great Britain)
"Remember that almost all countries were quite unconcerned at the danger from outgoing mail. The only significant exceptions were Russia and the Ottomans, both of whom were periodically worried that their ships might not get access to European ports."
This means that the three slits – even if they are done in the same manner as in Standgate Creek – have been applied on arrival in the Netherlands.
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The three chisel slits applied to the letter from 1832 from Devizes (England) to Bonn (Prussia) are in the same manner as they were applied in Standgate Creek. I have sent Denis an e-mail and asked for his opinion.
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Dear Bjoern,
Thank you for the additions!
André
- 03.07.1831: Jungbunzlau to Langensalza
- 01.08.1831: Warsaw via Berlin and Forbach to Paris
- 26.08.1831: Lauenburg to Stargard
- 01.09.1831: Namslau to Ratibor
- 21.09.1831: Krotoschin to Kelbra
- 28.09.1831: Ratibor to Kosel
- 14.10.1831: Lauenburg to Stargard